World Cup (the cricket one)

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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:22 am

I'm certainly very excited to see what Archer can do when we get back to playing proper cricket in a month's time.

I have given the world cup a good go but I'm still far from convinced that they have the format of the matches right, and totally unconvinced that the format of the tournament is right.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Doctor Congo @ Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:42 am

Dirk wrote:
NNK wrote:Am I right in thinking NZ only snuck through because rained off against India ?
Poss a bit harsh but not a deserved place in semi's ?

Possibly. Possibly England are lucky not to have had any rained off or they might be under threat. Possibly if the Pakistan -Sri Lanka match had not been rained off one of those would be in the running for a semi-final place

Could have, would have, should have

Enjoy it while it lasts

Dr C, I still think you are too negative. Yes the end of yesterday's match was dire, but the start was sublime. And before you once again bemoan the fact that was due to the batsmen having too much of an advantage, I have enjoyed watching many of the bowlers too. Naturally as an England supporter I have been delighted with Archer throughout, but there has been some great bowling from others too.

And with the knock-out stages to come I think it will get closer and more exciting


Hardly. Watching batsmen throw their hands at a ball on a dead pitch is not sublime rather utter tedium. There was zero contest between bat and ball until after 2 wickets had fallen. We’ve seen what happens to England when faced with a pitch that doesn’t fully negate bowling. It’ll be interesting to see how they prepare pitches for the semi finals. The knockout stages are rather predictable, NZ are rubbish and whoever meets them will pummel them, once Kane Williamson is out. It’ll be an Australia v India final and if the pitches behave like yesterday it’s the toss that decides the outcome.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by CJ+ @ Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:19 am

But apart from that, you liked it, right?
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:23 am

manfromdelmonte wrote:
I have given the world cup a good go but I'm still far from convinced that they have the format of the matches right, and totally unconvinced that the format of the tournament is right.

I think there is general agreement that having Nett run rate decide the qualifiers when points are equal has been a failure. That was what led NZ yesterday to batting some tediously to try and ensure they weren't bowled out cheaply.

The best suggestion I have heard is to decide based on who scores most boundaries

Nice to see Afghanistan in the tournament. Would like to see them grab a win today

Surprise of the tournament for me? How dire SA have been
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:30 am

Party Atmosphere at Lords for PAK vs BAN with Pakistan going for the most incredible win (need to score at least 316 runs more) to qualify over NZ

Plainly that is impossible except that they have won the toss, and are batting first. So at least Dr C's beloved Pakistan should be able to put down a convincing win for pride.

So can we expect Dr C to be in a Tiggerish mood rather than Eyeore today?

Or not
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Doctor Congo @ Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:30 pm

Dirk wrote:Party Atmosphere at Lords for PAK vs BAN with Pakistan going for the most incredible win (need to score at least 316 runs more) to qualify over NZ

Plainly that is impossible except that they have won the toss, and are batting first. So at least Dr C's beloved Pakistan should be able to put down a convincing win for pride.

So can we expect Dr C to be in a Tiggerish mood rather than Eyeore today?

Or not


For a pointless dead rubber?
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:58 pm

Well some of your fellow Pakistan supporters seem to be managing to enjoy it

There have been lots of reports of Lords "bouncing", being the loudest it has ever been, a "party atmosphere"

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Its still a sporting contest
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by minornut @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:57 am

India are making a right horlicks of this run chase
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:32 pm

They got closer than I expected but well done NZ.

Will make NNK and Dr C happy anyway

So let's hope we can do it tomorrow. Hopefully not such a slow pitch
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by NNK @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:25 pm

I hope its England in the final, don't mind losing to them.
We cant lose another final to the 'Stralians.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Doctor Congo @ Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:51 pm

Dirk wrote:They got closer than I expected but well done NZ.

Will make NNK and Dr C happy anyway

So let's hope we can do it tomorrow. Hopefully not such a slow pitch


Yup very happy. Tricky pitch so flat track bullies can’t smash the bowling around. Excellent performance by NZ though I thought they might be a bowler short near the end. If Starc fires tomorrow England are toast.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:54 am

Oh yes oh yes
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:14 pm

  • SPOILER: Mouse over to reveal
    • Target 224

      I'd have taken that at the start
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:39 pm

Someone was a bit quick off the ark on Wikipedia :hehe:

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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:19 pm

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    • Any Australians around?

      :towie-loser:

      That was a hammering
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:01 am

BBC wrote:On Monday, Australia's players had taken their shoes and socks off and walked the outfield here. The idea was to feel the positive energy coming out of the earth. On Thursday England took their pants down for them too.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:18 pm

So following Dharmasena's monumental fcuk up the ICC fine Roy and make Dharmasena one of the umpires for the final.

Seems cricket is going the way of football by rewarding incompetence and mediocrity whilst punishing the wronged.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:28 pm

Harsh DiBs.
Yes he got it wrong, but he is a good umpire & umpiring is very difficult. Easy to make mistakes. With TV watching every move they get caught now. It wasn't certain he didn't hit it until they used ultra edge. And the umpire didn't have that in real time.

Not the umpire's fault that England had wasted their review or that Roy had forgotten that.
Roy should not have argued as he did.
Decision seems ok to me

We don't want it going the way of football where they argue with ref
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:30 pm

Dirk wrote:Harsh DiBs.
Yes he got it wrong, but he is a good umpire & umpiring is very difficult. Easy to make mistakes. With TV watching every move they get caught now. It wasn't certain he didn't hit it until they used ultra edge. And the umpire didn't have that in real time.

Not the umpire's fault that England had wasted their review or that Roy had forgotten that.
Roy should not have argued as he did.
Decision seems ok to me

We don't want it going the way of football where they argue with ref


Sorry Dirk but I don't agree with a word of that (beyond not wanting it to get like football).

Dirk wrote:Decision seems ok to me


Sorry I didn't realise you were partially sighted, I was in Luton and got nearer to that ball that Roy did !

That was a shocking decision, and Dharmasena has form for getting decisions wrong, he even hold records for it FFS !

Players will react to things like that, it's part of the reason it happens in football and the review already being used is irrelevant.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by Dirk @ Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:16 am

I dont mean the umpire's decision was ok, I mean the decision that he umpire's final and Roy loses match fee

Have you ever umpired?
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:06 am

Played cricket for years and umpired regularly.

Officials should be respected, they won’t get respected if they repeatedly fcuk up and are backed by the governing body (see football).

I agree with Roy’s sanctions, but then they should also have done something about Dharmasena.

Deal with the root cause of the problem and players respect the official grows and problems are minimised.

Back and even reward poor officiating and you create more problems (see football).
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:40 am

It was hardly a howler. If he'd lost his spot in the final for that mistake, I'd say that was a poor show.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:27 pm

So NSLMB casually announces earlier that one of her friends has a box at Lords but can’t go tomorrow so have let someone else use it.

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:58 am

2.3 overs in and Dharmasena gets another one wrong....
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by S1K @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:40 am

DI Burnside wrote:2.3 overs in and Dharmasena gets another one wrong....

How can you have 0.3 of a six ball over?
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:07 pm

S1K wrote:
DI Burnside wrote:2.3 overs in and Dharmasena gets another one wrong....

How can you have 0.3 of a six ball over?

3 balls have been bowled in that over.

E.g. 2.6 = 3
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by S1K @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:30 pm

DI Burnside wrote: 2.6 = 3

I only got as far as GCSE in Maths so I’ll have to take your word for that
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:13 pm

It’s just the way it’s displayed.

Just to keep score, Dharmasena has got 2 out of 3 decisions wrong so far.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:26 pm

Now Erasmus has a touch of the Dharmasenas.
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Re: World Cup (the cricket one)

Post by DI Burnside @ Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:53 pm

Well they’re properly fcuking this up.
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