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RWC 2019

Post by Greg66 @ Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:34 pm

Not long now.

ABs probably favourites but they have certainly lost their air of invulnerability.

SA and England look impressive and capable of winning. Never write off Australia. Wales look like they haven’t yet peaked but they are short at 10. Ireland look like they peaked months too soon. France always overperform at the WC.

Exciting.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by tanglerat @ Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:21 pm

Mood in Ireland is the team are just coming good now. Time will tell on that of course.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Deuteronomy @ Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:07 am

I am so excited about this!

>claps hands excitedly<
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:28 am

tanglerat wrote:Mood in Ireland is the team are just coming good now. Time will tell on that of course.

Interesting, like Greg I would have said you had passed peak.

As you say, time will tell.

England have enormous potential (and I mean in both ways). But we are still weak in defence. I fear one of the top teams will find us out in that respect.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:29 am

A week to go (give or take a couple of hours).

Thought I'd have a look at the odds
NZ 11/8
SA 9/2
England 5/1
Ireland 10/1
Wales 12/1
Aus 18/1
France 40/1
Arg 50/1
Scotland 80/1

Although I'd rank NZ as favourites, I wouldn't put them as favoured as 11/8. Aus look a good outside bet at 18/1.

I guess the first question is who goes home first out of Arg, Eng and SA from group C- definitely the toughest group.
Arg are getting better so it will be a good fight i think
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Deuteronomy @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:50 am

Dirk wrote:A week to go (give or take a couple of hours).

Thought I'd have a look at the odds
NZ 11/8
SA 9/2
England 5/1
Ireland 10/1
Wales 12/1
Aus 18/1
France 40/1
Arg 50/1
Scotland 80/1

Although I'd rank NZ as favourites, I wouldn't put them as favoured as 11/8. Aus look a good outside bet at 18/1.

I guess the first question is who goes home first out of Arg, Eng and SA from group C- definitely the toughest group.
Arg are getting better so it will be a good fight i think


I'd really like to see Argentina do well - but not at England's expense, obvs.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:10 am

SO Aer Lingus went for it in their send off to the Ireland team. Redid the aircraft in a special livery

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Shame that only took them to London where they had to change aircraft
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Disastrous @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:43 pm

I don’t get what’s gone wrong there?

It’s for a departure photo call really, isn’t it?
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:03 pm

It is. Just seems a lot of trouble for such a short part of the overall travel. They may as well have repainted the coach to the airport

Just me?
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Disastrous @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:36 pm

I dunno...

I suppose I see it as just some decent sponsorship activation for Aer Lingus. They spend a couple of quid wrapping a plane and then get a photocall and all the associated collateral around the RWC and position themselves as patriotic supporters of the team. Good ROI for a marketing activity, I’d have thought!
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by thekungfury @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:44 pm

Dirk wrote:England 5/1

Those are such “Home” odds. Bookies always give such shit odds for every England sports competitions. There’s no way they should be better than Wales or Ireland but they know they will get loads of punters no matter the odds so they don’t need to entice them in.

Football is the worst where they’re something like 4 or 5/1 every two years.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:02 pm

thekungfury wrote:
Dirk wrote:England 5/1

Those are such “Home” odds. Bookies always give such shit odds for every England sports competitions. There’s no way they should be better than Wales or Ireland but they know they will get loads of punters no matter the odds so they don’t need to entice them in.

Football is the worst where they’re something like 4 or 5/1 every two years.

yeah,I know in general that is true,though looking at an Australian bookie the odds aren't that different (though in decimal)
NZ- 2.38
SA- 5
Eng - 5.5
Ire - 10

And I don't reckon 5 is-5.5 is that out of kilter for England's chances. They have some very strong forwards. NZ are a relatively young side and WC history shows that inexperienced sides don't tend to do so well.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by deev @ Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:35 pm

I'm annoyed, if Scotland had kept Cotter I think we may well have had a shout of doing something here. Instead we have Townsend and we cant defend again but can occasionally throw up the odd amazing result, just like the shitty teams he was part of.

Still, hopefully we wont get any French refs this time if we do manage to get to a respectable round.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:12 am

Only a few days now, some cracking matches on Saturday too.

Looking at the (long) weekend

Friday:
Japan vs Russia - have to favour Japan

Sat:
NZ vs SA - has to be NZ but should be a good game
Fra vs Arg - this one could be a decider as to who goes through. Any result possible but I think Arg will sneak it
Aus vs Fiji - Has to be Aus

Sun
Ire vs Scot. Sorry to the sweaties but I fear that will only go one way. I will cheer for Scot though
Italy vs Namibia - Can Namibia keep it below 50 points for any match? This is one of their best opportunities
Eng vs Tonga - COME ON ENGLAND
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Greg66 @ Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:09 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49733089: Rob Howley has been sent home from the Wales camp for betting infractions. That cannot fail to have some adverse effect on Wales.



Dirk wrote:Only a few days now, some cracking matches on Saturday too.

Looking at the (long) weekend

Friday:
Japan vs Russia - have to favour Japan

Sat:
NZ vs SA - has to be NZ but should be a good game
Fra vs Arg - this one could be a decider as to who goes through. Any result possible but I think Arg will sneak it
Aus vs Fiji - Has to be Aus

Sun
Ire vs Scot. Sorry to the sweaties but I fear that will only go one way. I will cheer for Scot though
Italy vs Namibia - Can Namibia keep it below 50 points for any match? This is one of their best opportunities
Eng vs Tonga - COME ON ENGLAND



I think NZ v SA will be quite finely balanced. Wouldn't be surprised to see an upset.

France v Argentina is definitely the one to study: the loser will come at us hard.

As long as Aus keep the ball away from Fiji's back line they should be fine.

Agree that Ireland should see off Scotland.

England need to avoid injuries against Tonga. Their (potential) five hard match streak doesn't start for a couple of games yet. Reckon EJ might keep some big guns on the bench and some other big guns in the stand for this one. A narrow win will be enough.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by NNK @ Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:53 pm

I'm not convinced the AB's are going to do it again.
Sorry I meant NZ, as I see there is a campaign that they are not to be called the All Blacks as it gives them an unfair psychological advantage.
Hopefully the Springboks and Wallabies hear that too
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by tanglerat @ Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:40 pm

Joviale91 wrote:
Deuteronomy wrote:
Dirk wrote:A week to go (give or take a couple of hours).

Thought I'd have a look at the odds
NZ 11/8
SA 9/2
England 5/1
Ireland 10/1
Wales 12/1
Aus 18/1
France 40/1
Arg 50/1
Scotland 80/1
Paris shuttle
Although I'd rank NZ as favourites, I wouldn't put them as favoured as 11/8. Aus look a good outside bet at 18/1.

I guess the first question is who goes home first out of Arg, Eng and SA from group C- definitely the toughest group.
Arg are getting better so it will be a good fight i think


I'd really like to see Argentina do well - but not at England's expense, obvs.

I agree with you


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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:12 am

Good matches yesterday, NZ vx SA was good to watch. France were bloody lucky. How they didn't go down to 14 men I do not know.

Best not talk about today's matches so far
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by tanglerat @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:14 am

Dirk wrote:Best not talk about today's matches so far


Don't know what you mean. :D
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by deev @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:17 am

Townsend needs sacking
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Disastrous @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:38 am

Just awful.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by tanglerat @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:20 pm

That was a good win for us, and an important one. It lets us play out the rest of the pool games giving the injured players more time to recover for the knock out stages.

Kearney, Henshaw and Earls will be massive influences on the team for those games. And they'll be needed - it's SA first up if everything pans out, isn't it?
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by CJ+ @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:56 pm

Pluses: four tries. Solid in the breakdown. When we passed the ball out, things happened -good things. No injuries.
Minuses: Jesus fcuk the handling. So many knock-ons. Daly's daftness almost certainly cost us a try.

Overall 6/10.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:43 pm

I'm happy with that as a starter. Defence was good. Handling they can tighten up on
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Greg66 @ Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:07 pm

ABs look better than expected. The way they turn nothing into something is exceptional.

France seem to have done that thing where they turn up at the RWC looking dangerous off the back of little to no form.

Scotland are simply outgunned at this level, massively. Getting into the knock out phase will be a big win for them based on this showing.

Ireland look like contenders but Sexton and Murphy are not controlling the game as much as they have done in the past, probably because their pack isn’t as dominant.

England. Potential. But the error count or the penalty count on their own will send them home against a top tier side right now. They need to tighten up considerably.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:28 pm

Potential shock on the cards?

Russia 6- Samoa 5 at HT
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by CJ+ @ Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:40 pm

I think Samoa are accelerating, although the Ruskies have just scored a cheeky drop goal.

ETA: 9-10 Russia/Samoa at 47 mins.

EETTAA: Yeah, I'm right :D it's 9-22 now (53 mins)
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by Dirk @ Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:45 pm

Yep, sounds like Samoa have benefited from some 'marginal' decisions though - commentators seem to believe they should be a man down by now
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by CJ+ @ Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:46 pm

Dirk wrote:Yep, sounds like Samoa have benefited from some 'marginal' decisions though - commentators seem to believe they should be a man down by now

I'm watching it. They're just way better than the Russians.

ETA: The Russians are >horizontal hand wobble< ooookay in set pieces, but in open play, they're hopeless - they've got poor tactics, meh ball handling skills, and the Samoans can just run through them.

Hence it's 29-9 to Samoa right now.
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Re: RWC 2019

Post by CJ+ @ Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:28 pm

Eng vs USA.

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