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Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:13 pm
by Damien Thorn
Probably the wrong place to post this but so what. Mrs Thorn and I have just shaken hands on a weight loss challenge. We've both managed to pork up recently, and saved up some proper old spare tyre bellies.

We've now just shaken hands on a challenge: tomorrow morning (Bank Holiday Monday) we both weigh ourselves, and then we have until the Monday of half term (approx eight weeks) to lose as much weight as possible - ideally off the midriff, so-called. The one who loses the least weight (in lbs) treats the other one to a steak dinner out somewhere of the winner's choice.

So. CTF. Point me towards a smaller belly. I'll weigh myself in the morning and tell you what it is - I already know I'm the very heaviest I've ever been. And from then on you can follow me into literally diminishing returns.

I haven't ridden my bicycle at all this summer, and I've not stuck to the no-beer rule I should have while I'm on my tablets, so there's plenty of scope. I've also eaten all the crisps in East Anglia, and mined a rich seam of dairy-free chocolate.

No more! Because now I must. Beat. My. Wife.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:24 pm
by Careless Whisperer
You should go on a liquid diet - nothing but Stella Artoir.... Wife Beater.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:40 pm
by Damien Thorn
You mean punch the weight off her? I think people frown on that these days CW?

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:46 pm
by thekungfury
I’ve had a lazy summer finished with a fortnight gorging on French wine, cheese, bread etc. so I’m carrying more timber than I’m happy with. I’m tempted to do an Autumn belly blitz so will watch this thread with interest.

You could a 15 minute HIIT workout every day and burn fat very fast. Loads of examples on YT and you don’t need any extra equipment.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:01 pm
by Greg66
I recently did a 12 week gym plan - diet and weights. At the end of it I had abs and definition and everyfink. Things I hadn’t had since, well, as long as I can remember.

Diet tips: post breakfast cut out *everything* except lean protein, green veg, half a cup of high GI carbs (oats, sweet potatoes) and water (3l a day). For breakfast eat 2-3 eggs, some salmon, an avocado half. That sort of thing.

Eat four meals a day: breakfast, lunch 1, lunch 2 and supper. The first three should be of equal calorific value (say 500-600 cal) and supper is 250 cal. Supplement with something like a very small handful of nuts during the day if you need to.

No dairy, alcohol, cereals (esp wheat in any form, incl flour). Minimise sugar (incl fructose which is in fruit in abundance).

Cardio/aerobic exercise will be killingly hard under this regimen, because little to no glycogen.

Good luck. Smash Mrs Thorn into the ground for us, Datho!

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:52 pm
by Tokyo Sexwale
Greg66 wrote:I recently did a 12 week gym plan - diet and weights. At the end of it I had abs and definition and everyfink. Things I hadn’t had since, well, as long as I can remember.

Diet tips: post breakfast cut out *everything* except lean protein, green veg, half a cup of high GI carbs (oats, sweet potatoes) and water (3l a day). For breakfast eat 2-3 eggs, some salmon, an avocado half. That sort of thing.

Eat four meals a day: breakfast, lunch 1, lunch 2 and supper. The first three should be of equal calorific value (say 500-600 cal) and supper is 250 cal. Supplement with something like a very small handful of nuts during the day if you need to.

No dairy, alcohol, cereals (esp wheat in any form, incl flour). Minimise sugar (incl fructose which is in fruit in abundance).

Cardio/aerobic exercise will be killingly hard under this regimen, because little to no glycogen.

Good luck. Smash Mrs Thorn into the ground for us, Datho!



Impressive results I’m sure Greg but fcuking heck, the effort!

I’m partly jealous as I like the sound of the end result but also can’t imagine being that motivated to do it - what’s driven you to do this at your enormous age?

Dath - predictable answer but it all begins in the kitchen. If you’re serious, cut out booze and all processed food and you’ll see it fall off, especially if you chuck in some cardio and weights.

There’s a great app called 7 minute workout that’s a good body weight workout - a good starting point to cheap and easy exercise with no equipment needed.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:07 pm
by Damien Thorn
Thanks. I already know two key things - beer and crisps need to go out the window. Frankly after that I think I'll piss it, as I don't have any dairy anyway, so my diet is pretty clear of saturated fats. I just need to combine it with getting off my arse again.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:16 pm
by Greg66
Tokyo Sexwale wrote:
Greg66 wrote:I recently did a 12 week gym plan - diet and weights. At the end of it I had abs and definition and everyfink. Things I hadn’t had since, well, as long as I can remember.

Diet tips: post breakfast cut out *everything* except lean protein, green veg, half a cup of high GI carbs (oats, sweet potatoes) and water (3l a day). For breakfast eat 2-3 eggs, some salmon, an avocado half. That sort of thing.

Eat four meals a day: breakfast, lunch 1, lunch 2 and supper. The first three should be of equal calorific value (say 500-600 cal) and supper is 250 cal. Supplement with something like a very small handful of nuts during the day if you need to.

No dairy, alcohol, cereals (esp wheat in any form, incl flour). Minimise sugar (incl fructose which is in fruit in abundance).

Cardio/aerobic exercise will be killingly hard under this regimen, because little to no glycogen.

Good luck. Smash Mrs Thorn into the ground for us, Datho!



Impressive results I’m sure Greg but fcuking heck, the effort!

I’m partly jealous as I like the sound of the end result but also can’t imagine being that motivated to do it - what’s driven you to do this at your enormous age?

Dath - predictable answer but it all begins in the kitchen. If you’re serious, cut out booze and all processed food and you’ll see it fall off, especially if you chuck in some cardio and weights.

There’s a great app called 7 minute workout that’s a good body weight workout - a good starting point to cheap and easy exercise with no equipment needed.


Well, I fell off the triathlon bandwagon because my back wasn’t playing nicely with a few things. Then I sort of let go a bit and ended up looking like a plump middle aged sausage. Not a good look. I was watching the Winter Olympics and clocked the speed skater pundit in the studio and her sculpted arms. A quick google revealed that she owns a gym in the City that specialises in 12w transformations. Some umming and ahhing later and I signed up. Because I like to see what I can do I suppose.

Three one hour weights sessions a week plus a strict diet and fat fold measurements every three weeks. It’s 75% eating and 25% gym (as you suggest). But it works. Properly works. And they put me (before and after) on their website as proof. Along with a ton of others.

I really liked the eating side. Made me realise how much crap my diet usually has in it. The biggest issue was avoiding undereating (because the volume of veg and white meat required to get over 2200 cals a day is substantial).

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:46 am
by Tokyo Sexwale
That makes sense Greg and I like the idea of eating lots.

I had it in my head you were trim anyway from all the cycling but it makes much more sense if you were a bit out of shape.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:16 am
by minimoog
After a BBQ summer I'm fat as fook too so had resolved to sort it out after a last binge today. Last time I tried this (a year ago) I managed to get 1.5 stone off between now and Christmas by cutting beer back to a few pints at the weekend only, no more crisps and chocolate or chips, and 2 or 3 walks a week of 2 or 3 miles plus a few dumbbell exercises at home. I ate mostly grilled meat or fish with salads and the odd potato and had the odd treat so not too hair shirt on the diet.

I'd guess 80% of the improvement was simply down to hugely reducing beer and walking a bit.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:51 am
by Damien Thorn
I'm currently the heaviest I've ever been, and could stand to lose a stone clean off my belly. The weigh-in is this morning, so I'll keep you posted.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:07 am
by manfromdelmonte
Damien Thorn wrote:I'm currently the heaviest I've ever been, and could stand to lose a stone clean off my belly. The weigh-in is this morning, so I'll keep you posted.


Are you going to add any ballast especially for the weigh-in? 4 pints of water will be 2kg, a decent breakfast and no shitting maybe another 1. Then you should be able to lose 3kg by this evening.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:58 am
by Damien Thorn
I am 160.75 lbs

Incredibly, there is just 1.25 lbs in it between us at the weigh-in.

Let battle commence!

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:09 am
by minimoog
Guardian wrote:Weight-loss pill hailed as 'holy grail' in fight against obesity

Researchers say lorcaserin is the first weight-loss drug to be deemed safe for heart health with long-term use. Taken twice a day, the drug is an appetite suppressant which works by stimulating brain chemicals to induce a feeling of fullness.

The drug has been on sale since 2013 under the name Belviq, where it costs $220- 290 (£155-225) a month.

A US study saw 12,000 people who were either obese or overweight given the pills or a placebo – with those who took the drug shedding an average of 4kg (9lbs) in 40 months


9lbs weight loss over 3+ years. For £200/month. The Holy Grail indeed.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:17 am
by Strawman
Damien Thorn wrote:I am 160.75 lbs


At only 4'11 you must look like a beach ball.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:21 am
by Tokyo Sexwale
minimoog wrote:
Guardian wrote:Weight-loss pill hailed as 'holy grail' in fight against obesity

Researchers say lorcaserin is the first weight-loss drug to be deemed safe for heart health with long-term use. Taken twice a day, the drug is an appetite suppressant which works by stimulating brain chemicals to induce a feeling of fullness.

The drug has been on sale since 2013 under the name Belviq, where it costs $220- 290 (£155-225) a month.

A US study saw 12,000 people who were either obese or overweight given the pills or a placebo – with those who took the drug shedding an average of 4kg (9lbs) in 40 months


9lbs weight loss over 3+ years. For £200/month. The Holy Grail indeed.

£8k for 4kg - incredible!

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:24 am
by Tokyo Sexwale
Damien Thorn wrote:I am 160.75 lbs

You are 20lb lighter than me and about a metre shorter.

Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:28 am
by Käsemeister
Or to put it another way, about 24lbs lighter than me and 2 metres shorter.

Basically a Weebl.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:32 am
by Damien Thorn
Tokyo Sexwale wrote:
Damien Thorn wrote:I am 160.75 lbs

You are 20lb lighter than me and about a metre shorter.
I wasn't shorter, just further away.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:51 am
by Tokyo Sexwale
When are you starting your new job dath? Plans for the interim? (I just decorated my stairwell and landing and thought of you...!)

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:54 am
by Damien Thorn
It starts very soon; this coming Wednesday.

And even though I've got a million little (and big) jobs to do around the house, I haven't done any of them! I won't even be doing any today, as we're off to watch stock car racing shortly.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:13 pm
by Tokyo Sexwale
Damien Thorn wrote:It starts very soon; this coming Wednesday.

And even though I've got a million little (and big) jobs to do around the house, I haven't done any of them! I won't even be doing any today, as we're off to watch stock car racing shortly.

:thumbup: Good, with that little downtime you should be enjoying it and not choring it up. Feeling perky?

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:30 pm
by Damien Thorn
Definitely. Really looking forward to it.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:37 pm
by Käsemeister
Great news

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:25 pm
by thekungfury
Greg are you continuing with the regime or did you bin it once you’d seen the ripped results?

For me if an eating/exercise thing isn’t sustainable over the long term I don’t see the point. I fcuking love food.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:08 pm
by Greg66
@Tokes: yes, that’s the one. I was pretty sceptical too and it is fair to say that not all of their graduates make the photoboard, and quite a few that do spend longer than 12w on it. For me I think it helped that I’d done a lot of tritraining solo as I found myself pushing myself harder in the gym work than a lot of others there seemed to be. But as
I say the key to taking the layer of fat off the top is diet.

Is it sustainable? Three hours a week weight training is certainly sustainable. And I’ve found that it has helped sort out my posterior chain (ie back) so I can sleep beyond five hours. That’s a strong incentive to continue and I did so in Canada.

The food side ought to be sustainable. Ought to be. One thing that’s very clear is that crap food is cheap and/or easily available. So the effort is really at the purchase stage rather than the eating stage. Breakfast these days is often lean minced beef dry fried with some chilli flakes, an egg and maybe a few green beans. I heart that a lot.

One caveat though. The final visual product of the 12w (for those who have seen) contains a little bit of a cheat. The last week of the programme puts you on a pseudo-“cut” to maximise definition and leanness. That said, I have more upper body muscle and less fat than at the height of my HIM training (when I was doing 12+h a week on top of riding to/from work). Weirdly it has also improved aerobic fitness: I did a hilly parkrun in Canada in 22m and change, having only run once in the previous 4-5months.

So I’m cautiously optimistic I can make the diet stick, and pretty confident I can keep up the gym work.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:43 pm
by thekungfury
Hilly + lower weight = good

I’m guessing there is a fair degree of extra cheat for the before/after shots. No smiling in before, haircut/tan/big grin afterwards. That said, the results can’t be argued with. Very impressive turning you from Jabba into Fight Club Brad (but still a horrific face).

Datho have you and wife done before pictures?

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:32 pm
by Greg66
thekungfury wrote:Hilly + lower weight = good

I’m guessing there is a fair degree of extra cheat for the before/after shots. No smiling in before, haircut/tan/big grin afterwards. That said, the results can’t be argued with. Very impressive turning you from Jabba into Fight Club Brad (but still a horrific face).

Datho have you and wife done before pictures?


For the before shot - honestly no cheat. I thought I was in fair shape when that was taken - I knew my belt had moved out an inch but didn't think it that bad. I didn't see the before shot until I saw the after shot at the same. Doubly surprising.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:44 pm
by Tokyo Sexwale
Greg66 wrote:
thekungfury wrote:Hilly + lower weight = good

I’m guessing there is a fair degree of extra cheat for the before/after shots. No smiling in before, haircut/tan/big grin afterwards. That said, the results can’t be argued with. Very impressive turning you from Jabba into Fight Club Brad (but still a horrific face).

Datho have you and wife done before pictures?


For the before shot - honestly no cheat. I thought I was in fair shape when that was taken - I knew my belt had moved out an inch but didn't think it that bad. I didn't see the before shot until I saw the after shot at the same. Doubly surprising.

It’s a decent transformation and one I’d normally be sceptical of if I didn’t ‘know’ the person. As it is, I want to show people the ‘someone I know who did this in 3 months’ but there’s no way of explaining how I know you and so your achievement cannot be shared, ever, by me.
I’m really interested to see you how long you continue to look like that now you’re allowed booze etc.

Re: Mr & Mrs Thorn Weight Loss Challenge

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:26 pm
by Greg66
I figured out that I could have booze during the 12w if I had under eaten during the day. A shot glass of spirit has 100 cals. And if I chose a nice bourbon I could sip it slowly enough to last 45 mins or so. Not a bad compromise.