2005 Elise 111S Owned

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2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:07 pm

My first, (and so far), only interesting car bought 18 months ago.
After a test drive in a Catherham - ruled out for being too hard core, I decided on an Elise.
I then promptly went and bought the first one I saw, with liitle more than a sit in the drivers seat. Not exactly text book!

7,000 miles later and I'm still not sure I have the measure of it. Despite doing one of those airfield days, where a racing driver shouts at you to go faster until you spin, I am still pretty nervous of the thing in high speed corners - more of a reflection on me than the car probably.

So, good: Small - b road blasting is much easier if you are n't worried about the width the whole time.
Sense of occasion - hearing an engine fire up behind you is always exciting, even if it is neither Italian nor over- endowed with cylinders.
Fuel economy and motorway cruising - will probably do 40mpg if I could be arsed to work it out, and is no more noisy or uncomfortable than a cheap supermini.

Bad - Needs to be revved to be 'fast' , I am constantly surprised at the mundane cars I need to 'try' against.
Reliability- ummm
Winter - The fan is rubbish, it never really demists and the boot gets damp. It was good fun in the snow though!


Photos to follow, will add more as I think of it.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by Paul H @ Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:21 pm

I've had one for 12 years and 100k+ miles. It's been round England, and to Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland, Eire, Isle of Man, France, Spain, Portugal, Andorra, Germany, Italy, Austria, Luxembourg, Holland, Slovenia, Hungary, Czech Rep...

It's still putting a smile on my face.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WD40 @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:09 am

WalMitty wrote:Winter - The fan is rubbish, it never really demists and the boot gets damp. It was good fun in the snow though!


Yours must be a good one then as I've read often of screens freezing on the inside. Thanks for the review, look forward to pics. :D
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:08 am

WD40 wrote:
WalMitty wrote:Winter - The fan is rubbish, it never really demists and the boot gets damp. It was good fun in the snow though!


Yours must be a good one then as I've read often of screens freezing on the inside. Thanks for the review, look forward to pics. :D


No - mine does that as well!
Not the end of the world if it is not your daily car, but more annoying than it sounds as the windscreem is so curved that normal ice scrapers are too wide to use on it.

I've probably come across a bit negative about it, it is by no means perfect. However, on the right road at the right time I cant think of anything I would rather drive, yet on the wrong road and the wrong time it is not any worse than any other car.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:16 pm

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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by Käsemeister @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:23 pm

Needs a whacking great supercharger on it.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:24 pm

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And after a grouse taking out the front grill

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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:26 pm

Käsemeister wrote:Needs a whacking great supercharger on it.


I have half thought about sticking something fruitier in it - but by the time you have done that, you may as well have bought something that has an engine in it that actually sounds nice.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by Käsemeister @ Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:03 pm

Aye there is that.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:18 am

Well the engine shat itself last week.
Still waiting for the official diagnosis, but we suspect at least the head has gone. It will almost certainly take the running costs in excess of the purchase price in just 3 years.
When it works, I love it. It is starting to get silly now though.
There are two options: 1) fix and hot up the engine at the same time and persevere, or 2) fix and sell it.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by Damien Thorn @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:22 am

What an arse. But three years is long enough to be fancying a bit of a change now anyway - is there something you might quite like instead?
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:23 am

Uh-oh.
WalMitty wrote: It will almost certainly take the running costs in excess of the purchase price in just 3 years.


That's just shit.

With the new addition, would you use it much anyway?
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by The Dragon Slayer @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:32 am

Is yours a K series or the Honda lump?
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:45 am

That's the conundrum.
It is just a toy, but even so if I got something else it should have rear seats really.
Hot hatches bore me, so the only things that are fun enough are a older 911 or a Toyota Gt86. An older 911 will probably be even more ruinous given my luck, and I'm not at all convinced by a Gt86 and the extra £10k I need to stick in to get one.

Will see just what broke first.

It's a K series- that I really like. If money was irrelevent I would keep the car and the engine.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by The Dragon Slayer @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:48 am

Do you know of yours has the VHPD engine in it? I can't remember what Lotus fitted to the 111S's.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:51 am

The Dragon Slayer wrote:Do you know of yours has the VHPD engine in it? I can't remember what Lotus fitted to the 111S's.


Nope. 156bhp as standard.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by The Dragon Slayer @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:54 am

WalMitty wrote:
The Dragon Slayer wrote:Do you know of yours has the VHPD engine in it? I can't remember what Lotus fitted to the 111S's.


Nope. 156bhp as standard.


Well that's just the later stock VVC engine then. Not a lot of money for a used/rebuilt one with the later head gasket and steel dowels in it if that's what's gone. Tuning them isn't very cheap though as you need to get the solid cam kit. Depends what you're after.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:08 am

That would be the sensible thing to do.
I have zero mechanical knowledge though, so am wary about buying an engine this is equally shagged or does the same thing in a few months time.

If I decide to keep it I may well go down the solid cam route. Some how it is easier to justify all this if the engine comes back with more horse power, even if the bill is double.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by The Dragon Slayer @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:11 am

A reconn head is £300-500, and then the cam kit is about £1000 depending upon what you want. The only issue is getting the engine in a place to work on.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:31 am

About what I expected.
It shall'nt be me doing the spannering though...
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by The Dragon Slayer @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:26 pm

I don't know where in the world you are, but DVA power are down the road in Milton Keynes and they have a great reputation for K series work.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:32 pm

I've read the stuff on DVA's website so have a rough idea of what to expect.
It's sat at Essex Autosport who I trust.
I may pm you with some questions once they come back with the diagnosis if you dont mind, as you seem a lot more clued up on this than me.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by The Dragon Slayer @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:10 pm

WalMitty wrote:I've read the stuff on DVA's website so have a rough idea of what to expect.
It's sat at Essex Autosport who I trust.
I may pm you with some questions once they come back with the diagnosis if you don't mind, as you seem a lot more clued up on this than me.


I won't guarantee I can help, but I'll answer what I can.
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Re: 2005 Elise 111S Owned

Post by WalMitty @ Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:11 pm

thanks
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