Election 2019

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Re: Election 2019

Post by Strawman @ Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:19 pm

Dream on S1K, now is now get used to it.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:16 pm

Boris is going to stay at Uxbridge which is not exactly safe. It isn't extremely marginal either but...

Wonder if LDS and greens would consider not standing to maximise chance of labour unseating him
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Frik @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:57 am

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Re: Election 2019

Post by span @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:31 am

S1K wrote:I don’t like living in interesting times. Can we go back to the mid nineties when things were just ticking along okay?

Oh S1k I am right with you.
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Re: Election 2019

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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:45 am


so far that is just between themselves. If they want a chance of ousting Boris they would need for none of them to field a candidate as only Labour has a chance there
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Re: Election 2019

Post by span @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:58 am

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Re: Election 2019

Post by S1K @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:53 am

I’d like to know what’s in this report about Brexit and Russia that’s stopping number ten from releasing it before the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... r-election
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Frik @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:31 am

Dirk wrote:

so far that is just between themselves. If they want a chance of ousting Boris they would need for none of them to field a candidate as only Labour has a chance there

Sorry, I misread you post.

No chance of that happening.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:37 am

S1K wrote:I’d like to know what’s in this report about Brexit and Russia that’s stopping number ten from releasing it before the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... r-election

Best information I have is that there is nothing like the amount of interference that some are hoping it shows, but more than others hope.

In terms of timing I am ambivalent
On the one hand by not publishing I think the govt are being stupid because it gives the appearance of squashing it, and thus makes it appear there is a smoking gun in there

On the other hand there are steps to go through and I think there are rules to stop the govt publishing sensitive information during an election run in

I generally find that incompetence explains far more than conspiracy theories. I strongly suspect that is the case here.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:40 am

Old news I know but Cairns has gone. He's my MP and despite the Vale voting to remain he was a leaver.
He recently sent me a questionnaire about how I'd be voting. I informed him that it would be anybody but him. The tw@t.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:52 am

Both main parties and their sometime supporters seem to be doing their best to lose this election

Labour barred 3 MPS from re-standing
Tories had Cairns resign
Tories had Rees-Mogg being an arse
They have Corbyn and Johnson as leaders
Watson stood down last night

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Labour voters should support Boris Johnson in the general election, former Labour MP Ian Austin has said.

The former minister resigned from the party in February, accusing leader Jeremy Corbyn of failing to tackle anti-Semitism.

Mr Austin, MP for Dudley North, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that Mr Corbyn was "completely unfit" to be PM.

One thing to turn against Labour, but surprising to tell voters to vote Tory rather than LD or Green

What more is to come in this election?
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Re: Election 2019

Post by tanglerat @ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:46 am

interesting times, strange days are making for strange bedfellows over in NI.

SF - one-time political wing of the Provos, remember - are not fielding a candidate in North Down in order to support Unionist Anti-Brexiter MP Sylvia Hermon, widow of former RUC Chief Constable John Hermon. Quote a few Shinners probably (definitely) spent quite a few (a lot) years plotting how to murder him.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by S1K @ Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:06 am

The Conservatives have had to bin a candidate in Norfolk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50341292

Conservative election candidate Nick Conrad has said he is standing down over "ill-judged comments" he made on the radio about a rape case.
The former BBC Radio Norfolk presenter, 34, had been chosen as the party's candidate for the Broadland seat.
He was criticised for saying in 2014 that women should "keep their knickers on" in an on-air discussion about rape.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Greg66 @ Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:15 am

S1K wrote:The former BBC Radio Norfolk presenter


A-ha.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:27 am

Interesting article on the groups each party are targeting with particular messages

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50335567
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Strawman @ Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:15 am

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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:27 am

CWU threatening a postal strike that could impact postal voting

In 2017 21.6% of votes cast were postal. SO could in theory have quite an impact

Of course we don't know if one party would be affected more than another. But if you look at which regions use postal votes more, they are predominantly the Labour leaning regions
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/uk-general-elections/results-and-turnout-2017-uk-general-election#postal-voting

Bit of a stretch to jump from there to concluding that labour voters are more likely to go postal, but there are other indications as well.

Could the CWU be about to commit a spectacular own goal?

Annoyingly it could favour the Brexit party as they historically (and UKIP before them) have had crap local organisations which are needed to get successful postal voting
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Strawman @ Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:28 pm

A Brexit Party candidate who believes she comes fro the star Sirius has quit the race to become an MP.

Jill Hughes, who was the party's prospective candidate for Batley and Spen, also believes in "elves/fairies/mermaids/unicorns and all things elemental and otherworldly", and that her horse was reincarnated as another horse.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-20811588?

Only the best people eh Nigel?
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:35 pm

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Re: Election 2019

Post by Damien Thorn @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:14 pm

That makes for a grim read.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by S1K @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:21 pm

Damien Thorn wrote:
That makes for a grim read.

And it will be instantly dismissed by the Momentum Corbynites
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Strawman @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:38 pm

Same old choice we usually face, vote for the lesser of two evils, to paraphrase what I said on page one, I think Dirk is trolling when he compares Corbyn to Farage though. Farage used actual Nazi propoganda in the referendum campaign lest we forget.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:51 pm

What is it you think I said? I can't see anything on pg 1 and I don't remember comparing the two. I abhor both and think both are/would be a disaster for the UK but can't thino of two many other similarities
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Strawman @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:18 pm

From page 1

Strawman wrote:I live in a Tory stronghold too. I will vote whichever way this website recommends to unseat the Tory encumbant

Currently says I must vote Labour, so I'll hold my nose and hope the anti-semitism isn't that real a thing and vote Labour


Gina Miller has launched her website, but it isn't live yet, when it does go live fairly certain it will recomend Labour as the only chance of unseating my pro Brexit Tory MP. The estimate is that if 30% of pro remain voters vote tactically it will keep the Brexit favouring parties out.

Dirk wrote:And only the best leading the other parties


I thought you were comparing the two there, apologies if you aren't.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Dirk @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:26 pm

Oic, misunderstood. And no wasn't directly comparing them. Just commenting on what a crap set of choices we have
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Strawman @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:42 pm

Sadly true
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Re: Election 2019

Post by Clown Ice Skater #4 @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:08 pm

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Re: Election 2019

Post by Frik @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:44 pm

S1K wrote:
Damien Thorn wrote:
That makes for a grim read.

And it will be instantly dismissed by the Momentum Corbynites

It's just a conspiracy whipped up by shadowy globalists, right?

They don't do irony or self-awareness unfortunately.
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Re: Election 2019

Post by thekungfury @ Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:42 pm

Skwawkbox (basically the Momentum magazine) reckons he was singing Hey Jude and it’s simply journalist can’t understand his scouse accent. If only we could hear some Liverpudlians singing it for comparison.
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