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Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by DaveBowman @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:32 am

I consider myself very much a centrist. There is an issue, I think with the way some campuses in the US, and ever more so in the Uk, with the hysterical student special snowflake brigade. I don't agree with Milo, or Crowder on many things, (although hoff Somers is superb), but I do STRONGLY agree with their stance on free speech, and campus hysteria that seems to be turning a percentage of students into raving damned lunatics.

Anyway, a good talk at UMASS a few days ago... Well worth watching.

Original video page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcp36n2cDg


Why is the Youtube formatting not working?

Anyway, here's the link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcp36n2cDg
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by stuart @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:39 am

Christina Hoff Summers is great.

I like Milo, I think you have to assume a lot of what he says is to get a reaction, but I agree with a lot of what he says.

And this whole situation on US campuses is fcuking absurd. If universities can't be places where free speech is protected and people are allowed to freely exchange ideas then what's the point? Safe spaces? Absolutely mental. If you're not mentally capable of hearing an opinion that you don't agree with then maybe university isn't a place for you. A lot of students also seem to confuse "I don't agree with you" with "I'm harrasing you". It must be a new thing, everyone is a victim, everyone is persecuted and everyone needs wrapped up in cotton wool and protected from words they don't want to hear. I don't know how these people will cope with the real world.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by DaveBowman @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:42 am

stuart wrote:Christina Hoff Summers is great.

I like Milo, I think you have to assume a lot of what he says is to get a reaction, but I agree with a lot of what he says.

Absolutely, as a provocateur he is superb. funny as hell, but like with most people, you can't agree with all their ideas, still, he does have a knack of punching the hell out of these social justice 'institutes', and I appreciate what he does for that!

Somers is superb. There is nothing about her I think i disagree with her on. Great pins too for an old dear.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by Clown Ice Skater #4 @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:02 pm

stuart wrote:And this whole situation on US campuses is fcuking absurd. If universities can't be places where free speech is protected and people are allowed to freely exchange ideas then what's the point? Safe spaces? Absolutely mental. If you're not mentally capable of hearing an opinion that you don't agree with then maybe university isn't a place for you. A lot of students also seem to confuse "I don't agree with you" with "I'm harrasing you". It must be a new thing, everyone is a victim, everyone is persecuted and everyone needs wrapped up in cotton wool and protected from words they don't want to hear. I don't know how these people will cope with the real world.


100% this. It's scary how quickly a vocal minority have been able to introduce what's essentially a new language of oppression.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by DaveBowman @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:30 pm

jimbob wrote:Will just leave this here...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/a ... -1.2602761

A superb example. Can't remember which Student union did it recently, but they wanted to stop gay white men from representation, as they were not oppressed enough.


*Decided not to be lazy and find it... It WAS the NUS... Surprise.*

These people seem to think the best way to get equality is segregation, labels, pigeonholes, and mobs. It is absurd, and the universities are bending over backwards not to upset them.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nus-tells-camp ... on-1551505
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by Clown Ice Skater #4 @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:32 pm

I find the no-platforming of feminists who object to trans rights over-riding those of women hilarious. Ludicrous situation.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by DaveBowman @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:58 pm

I don't understand no-platforming. Milo makes a great point about the BNP... Once they had a voice in the mainstream media, they just shrivelled away. Exposing views, even the ridiculous, is the best way to counter them.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by span @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:07 pm

DaveBowman wrote:I don't understand no-platforming. Milo makes a great point about the BNP... Once they had a voice in the mainstream media, they just shrivelled away. Exposing views, even the ridiculous, is the best way to counter them.

Agree completely.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by Käsemeister @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:05 pm

The new NUS leader is terrifying.
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by DaveBowman @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:13 pm

Käsemeister wrote:The new NUS leader is terrifying.

The Black/non-black anti-semite?
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Re: Milo, Hoff Somers and Crowder at UMASS

Post by DaveBowman @ Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:16 pm

You must NOT laugh at the tantrum ridden land whale.

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7528
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