Greg66 wrote:Dirk wrote:I don't believe the polls can be that wrong.
<Raises eyebrows>
But probs a CTF bubble. What with us lot being so caring and inclusive.
I used to think NP&E on PH was a bubble.But then Brexit and Trump.
Greg66 wrote:Dirk wrote:I don't believe the polls can be that wrong.
<Raises eyebrows>
But probs a CTF bubble. What with us lot being so caring and inclusive.
Dirk wrote:Interesting if surprising poll
EVen among Remain voters, people who voted LD are less likely (68.4) to vote for the same party this time than Tory (76.6) or Labour (71.5)
Source and credit:
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/
Dirk wrote:Interesting if surprising poll
EVen among Remain voters, people who voted LD are less likely (68.4) to vote for the same party this time than Tory (76.6) or Labour (71.5)
Source and credit:
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/
Tokyo Sexwale wrote:
Whoever thought that way of depicting it made sense needs beating.
Dirk wrote:First one has a lot of information in it. Hard to present so much in any other form. Worth the time it takes to figure it out
Rod Rammage wrote:Ridiculous chart. If I could be arsed looking at it for 5 mins I might figure it out, but I simply cannot. Be arsed!
minimoog wrote:Dirk wrote:First one has a lot of information in it. Hard to present so much in any other form. Worth the time it takes to figure it out
I thought I'd grasped it on a second look and was about to agree until I noticed the numbers for each category add up to more than 100.
So it can't be percentages, so what is it?
Strawman wrote:Also talking about a 2020 election so irrelevant now May has gone early for re-election.
Dirk wrote:A measure of preference for voting that way. They don't add up to 100 because they are scores for different groups
It does explain it in the text.
Dirk wrote:minimoog wrote:Dirk wrote:First one has a lot of information in it. Hard to present so much in any other form. Worth the time it takes to figure it out
I thought I'd grasped it on a second look and was about to agree until I noticed the numbers for each category add up to more than 100.
So it can't be percentages, so what is it?
A measure of preference for voting that way. They don't add up to 100 because they are scores for different groups
It does explain it in the text.
DI Burnside wrote:To be frank I think anyone who spouts the lines "I've always voted for X no matter what" or "I'll never vote for X no matter what" is being a bit stupid.
minimoog wrote:DI Burnside wrote:To be frank I think anyone who spouts the lines "I've always voted for X no matter what" or "I'll never vote for X no matter what" is being a bit stupid.
Your face is a bit stupid.
minimoog wrote:I'm torn between Lab or LD. I've never voted Con and I never will. Which is a bugger because I live in a safe Con-stituency. As in most places the LDs were wiped out round here in the last election, down 23%. In 2010 they were runners-up, but still 10 points adrift of Con. So could they regain that 23% and add another 10+%? Of course not. Then again Lab winning a big rural seat is equally fantastical.
I guess all that means it doesn't really matter, in my case.
Dirk wrote:Interesting if surprising poll
...
EVen among Remain voters, people who voted LD are less likely (68.4) to vote for the same party this time than Tory (76.6) or Labour (71.5)
Source and credit:
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/
Dirk wrote:It appears that even amoung Remainers who didn't vote Tory last time, the Tories are favoured for being able to negotiate the best deal when we do leave.
Strawman wrote:Dirk wrote:It appears that even amoung Remainers who didn't vote Tory last time, the Tories are favoured for being able to negotiate the best deal when we do leave.
This is the line the Sun, The Mail etc. are pushing, when the reality is the UK will have to accept whatever deal the EU offers.
Dirk wrote: The EU countries would prefer for us not to move to WTO rules either
Strawman wrote:Dirk wrote: The EU countries would prefer for us not to move to WTO rules either
This is another fantasy of the Hard Line Brexit crew, most countries in the EU couldn't give a shit because it won't affect them, the rest would prefer to stick to the EU principles of the four free movements, than give in to the demands of one member who wants to leave anyway.
Dirk wrote:Strawman wrote:Dirk wrote: The EU countries would prefer for us not to move to WTO rules either
This is another fantasy of the Hard Line Brexit crew, most countries in the EU couldn't give a shit because it won't affect them, the rest would prefer to stick to the EU principles of the four free movements, than give in to the demands of one member who wants to leave anyway.
There is no doubt Germany & france would rather we don't go to WTO.
But they won't give much up for it
Dirk wrote:It appears that even amoung Remainers who didn't vote Tory last time, the Tories are favoured for being able to negotiate the best deal when we do leave.
Pigeon wrote:Dirk wrote:It appears that even amoung Remainers who didn't vote Tory last time, the Tories are favoured for being able to negotiate the best deal when we do leave.
Given the way the Tories' activities so far have been aimed at making a bad situation as much worse as possible, one has to ask: are these people fcuking blind or what?
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