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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Käsemeister @ Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:58 am

A pretty Porsche. Gasp.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by minimoog @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:40 am

The puddle lights on the Jaguar EPace

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Probably just the wrong side of the twee/fun divide, but made me smile anyway.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by tanglerat @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:41 am

minimoog wrote:The puddle lights on the Jaguar EPace

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Probably just the wrong side of the twee/fun divide, but made me smile anyway.


Nah, it's on the right side of that divide I reckon. Got a smile out of me too.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Damien Thorn @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:45 am

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Re: Some words - cars

Post by thekungfury @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:49 am

Damien Thorn wrote:Ooof!

We’ve been seeing that for a while now but hadn’t realised the drop was so severe. The vast majority of what we make here is exported and that’s going well but such a hefty drop here wasn’t forecasted. Yikes
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Greg66 @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:05 am

thekungfury wrote:
Damien Thorn wrote:Ooof!

We’ve been seeing that for a while now but hadn’t realised the drop was so severe. The vast majority of what we make here is exported and that’s going well but such a hefty drop here wasn’t forecasted. Yikes


Tempting to toddle over to PH and blame this on Brexit. Retire to a safe distance, then watch the gammons turn a brighter shade of puce, etc...
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Careless Whisperer @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:10 am

thekungfury wrote:
Damien Thorn wrote:Ooof!

We’ve been seeing that for a while now but hadn’t realised the drop was so severe. The vast majority of what we make here is exported and that’s going well but such a hefty drop here wasn’t forecasted. Yikes

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-ne ... ssion=true

VW down 55%
Audi down 53%

Presumably the result of dieselgate - I wonder how they're US figures are looking?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:40 am

Careless Whisperer wrote:
thekungfury wrote:
Damien Thorn wrote:Ooof!

We’ve been seeing that for a while now but hadn’t realised the drop was so severe. The vast majority of what we make here is exported and that’s going well but such a hefty drop here wasn’t forecasted. Yikes

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-ne ... ssion=true

VW down 55%
Audi down 53%

Presumably the result of dieselgate - I wonder how they're US figures are looking?


From personal experience VW can't supply the cars due to the emission things.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Paul H @ Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:33 am

I've just had to go on-line to get a year's vehicle tax for the Smart. I know I have to do this because I got a go on the naughty step letter last year. My crime being that I thought a demand to pay £0 NIL could safely be ignored.

So, every year now, they send by post a demand for me to send them nothing. Is it just me thinking there might be a better way for them to demand their nothing?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by stuart @ Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:25 am

Paul H wrote:I've just had to go on-line to get a year's vehicle tax for the Smart. I know I have to do this because I got a go on the naughty step letter last year. My crime being that I thought a demand to pay £0 NIL could safely be ignored.

So, every year now, they send by post a demand for me to send them nothing. Is it just me thinking there might be a better way for them to demand their nothing?


Eh?

So what do you actually have to do?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by deev @ Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:04 pm

Went for a run in my mates Hellcat his evening. Jesus wept. Went through the clyde tunnel and just about shattered my ear drums. Brilliant! 700 odd bhp and a torque curve that's basically a flat line of madness right through the rev range. It's also humungous and made a bmw x6 look kinda dinky.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by thekungfury @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:25 pm

JLR are struggling and have lost £90m in the last Qtr. China, Brexit, dieselgate.

Anyway I’ve just heard that to try and shift some volume they’re offering staff an Evoque lease for £200/mth. Kinell!
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Strawman @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:33 pm

It does seem a lot of car for the money. Cheapest business lease a quick google found was £275/month, but a mate told me you could get them cheaper than that, he claimed a base model RR sport was available for £230/month.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:59 pm

Strawman wrote:It does seem a lot of car for the money. Cheapest business lease a quick google found was £275/month, but a mate told me you could get them cheaper than that, he claimed a base model RR sport was available for £230/month.


Selectvehicle have a 2wd Discovery Sport for £230. Or 2.0 TD4 180 SE 5dr 4wd [2019] for £270 but it's a £33k car so that's about right.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by S1K @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:00 pm

Is there really such a thing as a 2wd Land Rover?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:01 pm

S1K wrote:Is there really such a thing as a 2wd Land Rover?


Loads of the base models are
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Käsemeister @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:09 pm

Yup, the rot set in a few years back with the Freelander and then the Evoque and even the base model Discovery “Sport”

Not what they once were



I remember when they were all in fields.



Etc.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:13 pm

Käsemeister wrote:Yup, the rot set in a few years back with the Freelander and then the Evoque and even the base model Discovery “Sport”

Not what they once were



I remember when they were all in fields.



Etc.


I remember when you couldn't buy one if you had a tattoo... now it's compulsory.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by minimoog @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:33 pm

I recently spent a couple of week in a Jaguar E-Pace, which is pretty much an Evoque from what I can gather.

Seriously underwhelming - jerky auto transmission, jiggly and pitchy ride, and a petrol engine which for all its 250 bhp sounded rough and recalcitrant.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by DI Burnside @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:44 pm

I quite like the Evoque.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:26 pm

DI Burnside wrote:I quite like the Evoque.


My mate has one. It's ok in the front but the rear is much like a pygmy-
dark, small and difficult to enter.

Also no bloody grab handles. In an off roader. Stupid car.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Damien Thorn @ Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:25 pm

Il Duce wrote:
DI Burnside wrote:I quite like the Evoque.


My mate has one. It's ok in the front but the rear is much like a pygmy-
dark, small and difficult to enter.

Also no bloody grab handles. In an off roader. Stupid car.
My sister is on her second Evoque. They're smart enough, but tiny and complicated. Hers is black and white and looks like a Stormtrooper's helmet.

Or helmet.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Damien Thorn @ Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:06 pm

I filled up the Shogun today, from fuel-light-on to brimming. Eighty five litres. That was eye-watering.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Käsemeister @ Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:54 pm

Ha. The old Rangie was 101 so it got painful very quickly.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by S1K @ Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:36 pm

Hopefully I'll be spending a bit less on petrol in the future as I've just had a minor fuel leak fixed. I didn't know it was leaking but it turned up on the MoT. At £1.30 or so a litre petrol is too expensive to just be throwing away.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Damien Thorn @ Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:44 am

Flippin' lorry tw@ts! Two separate lorry incidents for in my way this morning : one artic who decided to do a three point turn in the end of my road as I left for work, blocking three directions of traffic including the High Street, just because he'd gone wrong.

And another one who decided a puncture on one of his several dozen wheels meant that he had to stop blocking one whole lane of the roundabout exiting the DC into town.

tw@ts!
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Turntable @ Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:49 pm

deev wrote:Went for a run in my mates Hellcat his evening.


Which hellcat has he got?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by deev @ Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 am

Turntable wrote:
deev wrote:Went for a run in my mates Hellcat his evening.


Which hellcat has he got?

A Challenger. Bright orange thing.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:07 am

I ordered another Golf R. In silver white. 5 door because they don't make 3's and DSG because, well you know VW Audi clutches.

The dealer promised it for yesterday, then "the back end of Dec" until I pointed out that the R WMLT emissions test wasn't scheduled until 10th Jan. He then admitted it would be Feb.

Apparently the cars of many models are built and are sitting waiting for the tests to go through. They also have to test all variations of each model and within each variation they have to test it with all the different options hence the prevalence of "packs" now instead of individual options to reduce the amount of tests needed and why my R has no added options (not that I wanted anything anyway).
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by CJ+ @ Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 pm

I've had the Saab for a year and while I've enjoyed driving and having it, and its practicality and comfort is beyond question, but I want an automatic, and am idly mulling over the prospect of replacing it.

(It turns out that I am in fact a massively lazy bastard - apologies if this revelation has shocked your worldview to its core - and changing gear manually seems to me to be an activity on par with washing your clothes in the river or growing your own pig when you want a bacon sandwich)

I need a couple of key features:

Flat-loading estate with the ability to fit a dog guard.
Automatic.
Decent economy - anything north of 40mpg will be fine.
Not ruinous or complex to service.
Comfy with lots of QoL features.
Secondhand for between 5-10K

Things I'm not arsed about:

Outright performance - as long as it's reasonable. I.e. anything upwards of 150BHP will prolly be fine and will quite happily cart me, the dogs and the missus around.
Badge. I mean I probably draw the line at Ssangyong or Proton, but other than that, no fcuks given. Although I tend to avoid Vauxhall and French cars, based on experiences having driven and hated them.
Size. If it fits two dogs in and is a proper estate, don't need it to be huge - a Focus estate, forex, would be way more useful to me than a Mondeo hatchback.
Hybridness. I would cheerfully drive one if it fulfilled the criteria above.

So, what about a 2.2 Mazda 6 estate? Anyone had one? Would you buy a diesel now, or is petrol the way forward? What else is out there? What to avoid?
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