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Re: Some words - cars

Post by deev @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:48 pm

That's mad/excellent/rubbish all at the same time!
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:38 pm

France and Italy have similar things for 16 yr olds. They have about 20bhp but a wheel in each corner.

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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:41 pm

I saw a tidy E30 convertible earlier and am now wondering what one would be like as a summer car for local trips. They're surprisingly cheap (I assumed they'd be 10k+) still and I reckon they're a pretty elegant future classic that probably won't drop much in value now.

THoughts?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Deuteronomy @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:44 pm

Tokyo Sexwale wrote:I saw a tidy E30 convertible earlier and am now wondering what one would be like as a summer car for local trips. They're surprisingly cheap (I assumed they'd be 10k+) still and I reckon they're a pretty elegant future classic that probably won't drop much in value now.

THoughts?


I think they will at the very least hold their value well - probably rise, a reasonably safe place to put some cash I think.

I had an E30 318is as a company car in the late 90's and it was huge fun.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:05 pm

Deuteronomy wrote:
Tokyo Sexwale wrote:I saw a tidy E30 convertible earlier and am now wondering what one would be like as a summer car for local trips. They're surprisingly cheap (I assumed they'd be 10k+) still and I reckon they're a pretty elegant future classic that probably won't drop much in value now.

THoughts?


I think they will at the very least hold their value well - probably rise, a reasonably safe place to put some cash I think.

I had an E30 318is as a company car in the late 90's and it was huge fun.


I had a 325 and 2 M3's- Brilliant.
E30- The last of the proper BMW's.
Starting to look pretty again.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by S1K @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:18 pm

Try and get a six cylinder car if you do decide to get an E30. The noise that M20 engine makes is fantastic.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:59 pm

It’s comments like that S1 that start the process of budget creep. Before you know it, I’ll have an £80k e30 M3.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by S1K @ Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:20 pm

This?

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or this?

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Don't bother with this -

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because an E30 M3 is supposed to be all about the driving and the convertible is both floppy and heavy, somewhat spoiling the whole concept. And they're stupidly expensive.

You could always go for something like this -

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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:47 am

I remember my old E30 M3's as cars with sufficient power, and a sublime chassis.

I wonder if I drove them now would I be disappointed?

Is it sometimes better not to meet your heroes?
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:07 am

manfromdelmonte wrote:I'd argue that Lotus is probably the car make that marks you as a petrol head. Certainly far more than Alfa. I could also make arguments for TVR.


I disagree. Being a “petrol head” is more about the engines which isn’t really Lotus’s thing, and the lack of new models is enough to put me off Lotus.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:38 am

Most of the best engine of the last 20 years have arguably come from BMW and Mercedes, hardly marques synonymous with petrol-headedness in the vast majority of cases. I'm really not sure you make the rules on this one.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Dirk @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:48 am

Baby Huey wrote:
manfromdelmonte wrote:I'd argue that Lotus is probably the car make that marks you as a petrol head. Certainly far more than Alfa. I could also make arguments for TVR.


I disagree. Being a “petrol head” is more about the engines which isn’t really Lotus’s thing, and the lack of new models is enough to put me off Lotus.

But as you haven't owned one, you aren't a petrol head, and so can't comment on what a petrol head is more concerned about!

Any in any case ignores some of the engines, e.g. those of the Esprits, whether the twin turbos that produced an amazing power to weight ratio, or the later V8s
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:16 am

Dirk wrote:
Baby Huey wrote:
manfromdelmonte wrote:I'd argue that Lotus is probably the car make that marks you as a petrol head. Certainly far more than Alfa. I could also make arguments for TVR.


I disagree. Being a “petrol head” is more about the engines which isn’t really Lotus’s thing, and the lack of new models is enough to put me off Lotus.

But as you haven't owned one, you aren't a petrol head, and so can't comment on what a petrol head is more concerned about!

Any in any case ignores some of the engines, e.g. those of the Esprits, whether the twin turbos that produced an amazing power to weight ratio, or the later V8s


So having not owned I’m not allowed to comment on how crap they are? As I said, the lack of new models is enough to put me off.

I seriously doubt I’d be be able to get into an Elise, for one. The Esprit has a rather cheap and nasty interior yet cost more than a Merc SL when new.

I’m really looking forward to the arrival of new Alpine, and may well buy one.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:48 am

I own a rather spiffy Mercedes W124 CE 300 24v.

Can't post a pic for some reason. Is that "petrolheady" enough for you.

That's a 3 Litre 24V inline 6 with just shy of 240 bhp. And RWD
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by ttwiggy @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:54 am

If you can't get into an Elise you should probably see a physiotherapist. I'm just over 6ft tall and was in my mid/late 30s when I owned mine and ingress/egress was just a matter of lifting a leg over the sill. Tricky if you were in a tight parking spot and the roof was on, but quite easy in most situations.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Strawman @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 am

Baby Huey wrote:I own a rather spiffy Mercedes W124 CE 300 24v.

Can't post a pic for some reason. Is that "petrolheady" enough for you.

That's a 3 Litre 24V inline 6 with just shy of 240 bhp. And RWD


They're a good car in a floaty cruising sort of way, looses points for being a 4 speed auto, they can be made to travel well on a twisty road but are more suited to providing comfortable transport at 100mph+ on a motorway. The whole idea of a petrol head car maker is a bit of a nonsense, but Alfa and Lotus are arguably closer than Mercedes, both had success in formula 1 and building the car not just the engine, both offered a more exciting driving experience at the expense of comfort or toys or ergonomics. Alfa has long since been consumed by FIAT motor group and Lotus is sitting in some sort of Lacuna of ownership difficulties, so those days are past really.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Damien Thorn @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:17 am

Strawman wrote: in some sort of Lacuna of ownership difficulties,


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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Dirk @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:19 am

Huey,
I was taking the piss. The whole thing about any petrol head has to have owned this car or that is ridiculous.

There are petrol heads that have never owned any, and people who have owned all of them and who are still not
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:24 am

Strawman wrote:
Baby Huey wrote:I own a rather spiffy Mercedes W124 CE 300 24v.

Can't post a pic for some reason. Is that "petrolheady" enough for you.

That's a 3 Litre 24V inline 6 with just shy of 240 bhp. And RWD


They're a good car in a floaty cruising sort of way.



Yes, just the kind of car I like.

We also have a MK3 MR2 for more spirited driving.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by S1K @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:26 am

Damien Thorn wrote:
Strawman wrote: in some sort of Lacuna of ownership difficulties,


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Made me think of a Renault Laguna and how much I wouldn't want to own one of them.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:45 am

On the Rotary forum Stanley wrote:We also have a MK3 MR2 for more spirited driving.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:36 am

The MK3 MR2.

Doug DeMuro is clearly impressed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW0v505p60U
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:26 am

How do you pronoun Celica?

Doug says sell ica

I say se leek a
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Il Duce @ Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:05 am

Baby Huey wrote:The MK3 MR2.

Doug DeMuro is clearly impressed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW0v505p60U


His opinion is as valued as DDD's about women.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Pigeon @ Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:06 pm

Baby Huey wrote:How do you pronoun Celica?

Doug says sell ica

I say se leek a


Seal icker.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:23 am

Il Duce wrote:
Baby Huey wrote:The MK3 MR2.

Doug DeMuro is clearly impressed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW0v505p60U


His opinion is as valued as DDD's about women.



Obvs!

That must be why nearly 650,000 people have watched the video in the 2 days since it came out.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by Baby Huey @ Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:35 am

Baby Huey wrote:
Il Duce wrote:
Baby Huey wrote:The MK3 MR2.

Doug DeMuro is clearly impressed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW0v505p60U


His opinion is as valued as DDD's about women.



Obvs!

That must be why nearly 650,000 people have watched the video in the 2 days since it came out.


As I once read somewhere, the MR2 is eight tenths of an Elise, for a third of the price.

They forgot to mention Toyota reliability.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by ttwiggy @ Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:30 am

Baby Huey wrote:
As I once read somewhere, the MR2 is eight tenths of an Elise, for a third of the price.

They forgot to mention Toyota reliability.


They probably also forgot to drive an Elise.
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Re: Some words - cars

Post by ttwiggy @ Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:33 am

As I mentioned I've been browsing for cheap, early Boxsters.

I wouldn't be interested in this car at it's not a colour I'd want (my old Boxster S was this colour). But that aside, does anyone else think it's a questionable idea to include a picture where it appears that the garage owner might be 'helping with enquiries' with regard to the legal status of his stock? (also, it's really out of focus).




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Re: Some words - cars

Post by S1K @ Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:36 am

Laugh!

"And can you explain why all these cars have the same VIN sir?"
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