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Employment Agencies?

Post by Broken Hero @ Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:57 pm

I'm a bit out of touch with the whole jobhunting game. Are you supposed to call them or wait for them to call you? I'm getting a lot of these who have got hold of my CV calling me, but then I never hear from them again?
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Broken Hero @ Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:03 pm

Permanent - finance, they call me up saying they want to put me forward to jobs, I say yes/no, they say ok Ill email you the details/I'll find something more suitable and let you know and then I dont hear anything.
Am I supposed to ring them up or what?
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Careless Whisperer @ Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:42 am

My thinking on this is as follows: Agencies need two things to be successful...

1) Books full of people looking for jobs.
2) Successful placements of people in jobs.

Now there is a conflict of interest above. If you succesfully find a job for someone, then they will no longer be searching for work. So (in my twisted thinking), what they possibly do is actively find jobs for all the people who keep calling them and hassling them and the keep all the quiet people hanging on and on to keep the books full.

Why find a job for someone who is quiet when you've got someone else who phones you everyday?

I have never had great experiences with agencies because I can't be ars*d to chase them. A good friend of mine (in the same industry) has had a lot of success with them, but then she literally phoned them every single day until they got her a job.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Kermit @ Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:21 am

Not sure how that works Groomi? Agencies don't get paid a penny on anything other than candidates they put into jobs.

The perfect equation for them it to place candidates instantly, whilst never getting a job in without a candidate to put forward for it. Any candidate on their books is, however minimally, an admin cost until they can place them.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Snoggledog @ Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:47 pm

Broken Hero, you have mail.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by One MoreDonkey @ Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:59 pm

contact them, every day if need be. Make yourself keen for employment. If you dont chase them, they will not chase you.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Broken Hero @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:38 am

Snoggledog wrote:Broken Hero, you have mail.


no I don't :?

coolcatmaz wrote:contact them, every day if need be. Make yourself keen for employment. If you dont chase them, they will not chase you..


I think i am like a groomi, in that i cant see the point, Im sure they are really useful for some people, but not for me. My main issue is the ones that see your cv from a website or whatever, call you up saying they want you to register with them or they want to put you forward for a job and then you never hear from them again.. sure if they liked you that much they would call you and you wouldnt have to keep calling them?
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by morebeanz @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:52 am

When you say you are in Finance, do you mean that you are an accountant or that you are a banker? For the accountants, there are specialist agencies, of which I would classify about five as worth ever talking to. Even those five will need chasing extensively unless you are one of those lucky individuals with the "perfect" CV.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Dirk @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:07 am

Why use recruitment agencies?
Because a lot of big companies do not advertise directly so you have to go these parasitesfine professionals

How to treat them?
Who cares more about your career - you or the recruitment agency?
Look around your office. What % of people are hard-working, professional and dilligent. What % are wasters? Think it will be any better in a recruitment agency office where they have been sent 2000 CVs for finance director, 1900 of whose most senior job to date has been working the tills at Asda?
So phone up to get details of job before sending CV, make sure you are right for job, tailor CV to match and then phone up to chase

All IMHO of course

Should I need a new job soon, I would like to point out that I have the highest respect for recruitment agencies who are doing a difficult job with poor job specs, unrealistic applicants and crap CVs
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Kermit @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:34 am

Broken Hero wrote:I think i am like a groomi, in that i cant see the point, Im sure they are really useful for some people, but not for me. My main issue is the ones that see your cv from a website or whatever, call you up saying they want you to register with them or they want to put you forward for a job and then you never hear from them again.. sure if they liked you that much they would call you and you wouldnt have to keep calling them?


Think of it as being in sales. You may never have had a job selling someone else's product in your life, but when you go looking for work, you are selling yourself and your abilities.

Then think about what happens when you're a buyer. How many product categories can you think of where there is one supplier so far ahead of the rest of the field in every respect that they are the only possible choice?

As with almost any product, relationships are as important in selling yourself as the actual product (your skills). If you're not ringing the consultants, having a quick chat and building a rapport whilst following up on any opportunities they may have, someone else will be, and whilst that someone else may not be as strong as you, if they're within spitting distance, then the fact that they're keeping themselves fresh in the minds of the recruitment consultants will generally be enough to get them onto shortlists ahead of you.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Careless Whisperer @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:31 pm

Kermit wrote:Not sure how that works Groomi? Agencies don't get paid a penny on anything other than candidates they put into jobs.


But in order to get more business you need to be able to demonstrate that you have a huge network of job seekers matched to a huge network of job opportunities. I just think it's a volume thing, in order to get more 'sales'.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by parakitaMol @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:56 pm

Some agencies brag about how big they are - this might mean they are good, but they might also be bad

Some employees also brag about what big shots they are..... they might be, but they might also be rubbish.
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Re: Employment Agencies?

Post by Snoggledog @ Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:32 pm

Broken Hero wrote:
Snoggledog wrote:Broken Hero, you have mail.


no I don't :?
You should have now.

A couple of things to add. Load up your CV with every single buzzword possible. i normally stick them in a header, colour them white then hide the text. Means that when recruiters do a key word search your cv appears. Keep it as clear and as readable as possible. Avoid using tables.
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